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Bill Pound's avatar

I greatly appreciate your citations from ancient times to today. They document the slow evolution of human understanding of our natural world. Rousseau simply chose to imagine this history, then build a utopian world based on his vision. AI does not yet encompass this full range which could easily send us down a wrong path. I also was drawn to the statement, "Because the world is better viewed as indeterministic, decision making remains a human task, linked with responsibility." None can know everything and decision making is always under uncertainty as Heisenberg convinced me long ago. Or to paraphrase the pragmatist, Charles S. Peirce, we make decisions based on, "What it is reasonable to believe". Then there are those devilish things called "responsibility" and "accountability". I wish more humans would think on these terms when making decisions.

Apostolos Efthymiadis's avatar

Excellent generalization of the concept of the dual nature of the scientific laws of physics, either as deterministic or as stochastic, similar in a way to the classical conflict particle physics versus wave mechanics, leading to a rather obscured but now profound scientific conclusion, stated for first time, that every scientific law has a dual character, being either deterministic or stochastic in nature!

After all, Aristotle distinguishes SCIENCE as demonstrative knowledge in two branches:

- Deals with things that are “always the same” (ἀεί ὡσαύτως ἔχοντα = eternal beings) and

- things that occur “for the most part” (τα ὡς ἐπί το πολύ = statistically predominant);

According to Aristotle, concepts and ideas are deriving from the abstraction of sensible things, in contrast to Plato who defines them as reminiscence of the soul from the ideal world of ideas. Of course this definition of ideas, by Socrates and Plate, is justified by the fact the scientific laws can not be founded on the basis of imperfect and ever changing ideas, but only on eternal fixed ideas. This problem was solved by Aristoteles who defined ideas as abstractions of the sensible things. Other than that, both approaches are equivalent!

Therefore this dual nature is generically explained by the Aristotelian approach, as all scientific laws are based on mathematical abstractions, focusing on the most important parameters of a physical problem and ignoring the rest, the less influential ones, which under certain conditions, manifest themselves, as "uncertainties" to the deterministic formulation predictions and therefore leading to the need for the stochastic approach, in order to "explain" the behavior of the unaccounted infinite ignored parameters.

And here comes again Aristotle with his statement about the Four Causes (Metaphysics) of every thing: the Material cause (υλικό αίτιο), the Formal (μορφολογικό αίτιο) cause , the Efficient cause (ποιητικό αίτιο), and the Final cause (τελεολογικό αίτιο) of a thing.The Example: The one-dimensional focus on CO2 of the Climatic Change dogma as the sole efficient cause, ignores the complexity of other causes (e.g., clouds, Sun, water cycles). By ignoring the material and formal complexities of the Earth’s chaotic atmospheric systems—as highlighted by Nobel laureate John Clauser and others—we risk transforming science into Scientism.

The science of Thermodynamics exemplifies this dual nature of physical laws in most profound way. There are several and equivalent statements of the second law of thermodynamics like the :

- Clausius statement: Heat can never pass from a colder to a warmer body without some other change, connected therewith, occurring at the same time

- Lord Kelvin statements: It is impossible for a self-acting machine, unaided by any external agency, to convey heat from one body to another at a higher temperature

- Principle of Carathéodory: In every neighborhood of any thermodynamic state S of an adiabatically enclosed system there are states inaccessible from S

- Boltzmann's approach: It says that, over long periods of time, the time spent in some region of the phase space of microstates with the same energy is proportional to the volume of this region, i.e. that all accessible microstates are equally probable over a long period of time. Equivalently, it says that time average and average over the statistical ensemble are the same

- He also argued that due to collisions gases should over time tend toward the Maxwell–Boltzmann distribution.

In other words, Boltzmann demonstrated the second law on purely statistical grounds, whereas Caratheodory proved, on purely deterministic grounds, that certain thermodynamic states, no matter the complexity of the thermodynamic system, are inaccessible with purely adiabatic processes. And here arises again the Aristotelian concepts of potentially accessible states or transitions (δυνάμει-ενδελέχεια-diligence) versus the actual ones (θέσει- actual position).

An excellent treatise of the second law proofs by Caratherodory and Boltzmann are presented in V. Parameswaran Nair open book, in chapter 9 and paragraph 7.2 respectively! https://academicworks.cuny.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1052&context=cc_oers

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